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Hi guys! I've noticed things have been rather dead around here lately so i'm kind of posting just for the sake of it . How are those updates going Ali? Anyways if you guys haven't already heard here's what Ali's "favourite" (*don't shoot me i'm being sarcastic*) writer Marti Noxon recently said about the posibble Faith spin off:

[Ali]

She didn't want to do a pale imitation of Buffy? LMAO!! That's ALL she does - make pale imitations I mean. Especially while she *cough* 'worked' on the show!

Warning: Possible rant ahead.

(If you wanted to see a real look of horror and disapointment - you should've seen Sasha as she watched DS9's mirror universe episodes. BtVS' 'This Wish' is nothing but a rip-off. It's so blatant it's not funny.)

I am, however, thanking God that Toxon won't have anything to do with Faith. Although frankly, I won't really breathe a sigh of relief until a movie is done and I know that she's NOWEHERE in sight of it. The amount of people that believe she has actual ' talent' honestly terrifies me.

I'm SO glad Eliza passed on the FtVS show for Tru - simply because she avoided working with Toxon again. I honestly believe in my heart of hearts that if Toxon had worked on a Faith show - it would've failed spectacularly. She would've reduced Faith to a shadow of her former self. I mean - all you have to do is watch Consequences and compare it with...oh...ANY other Faith episode.

As for the updates - they're coming along slowly thanks to Sasha's workload. But we assure you they are being done

Keep posting 'just for the sake of it'

Now - if we could just find more people like yourself...*goes to search*

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[Mike_Expo]

Psh...Star Trek would get owned by Star Wars any day of the week.
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Drain out your artery straight to a love that would never be...

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I hate the fact people even compare those two. Star Wars and Star Trek universe have nothing in common And why (for the sake of Kahless ) do people always assume that people who like one, hate the other one? Star Wars is my favourite movie saga ever (counting days to 19th of May), and I'd vote the original trilogy as three of my favourite movies of all times. so to sum up and avoid further argument i'll put it this way: SW are my favourite movies, and ST,BtVs, and Angel share the first place on my list of favourite shows.
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And the road
The old man paved
The broken seams along the way
The rusted signs, left just for me
He was guiding me, love, his own way
Now the man of the hour is taking his final bow
As the curtain comes down
I feel that this is just goodbye for now.

[Ali]

YAY!! You're a Trekker? Wicked. I LOVE Trek (although you'll never in a bazillion years get me to watch Enterprise - talk about flawed concept! After I watched the pilot, I bailed. I think Rick Berman and Marti Toxon are the same person )

I've a very soft spot for TNG. I love it to death. But DS9 rules imho. I was a major Trekker up until 1999. By that time, I was sick and tired of Janeway and Seven of Nine constantly beating the Borg. It's all they did and I honestly couldn't wait for Voyager to be cancelled to put us all out of our misery.

I never thought I'd love anything as much as I loved TNG/DS9 - until 3rd season BtVS. You and I are twins in this respect. Trekverse and Buffyverse totally rule!

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[Mike_Expo]

I'm not even going to get into this discussion, heh.
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[Ali]

NP Mike. You don't have to talk about it.

Ashes: I heard about Enterprise being cancelled. It made my day! You're right - I don't think 'real' Trekkers considered it worthy of the other three. I didn't - hence me never watching .(I watched the pilot to see if it was as bad/flawed as it sounded - which it was.)

I totally understand Riker irritating you. He irritated me, too. But over time - as I began to learn more about Jonathan - he grew on me. I like Jonathan ( I loved him as a director and he's just lovely person.)

I liked the Bajoran religious stuff. But to be honest - I loved every aspect of DS9.

Including religion was a masterstroke imho. TNG always skipped over it. Having religious vs politics is always interesting and Kai Winn made a wondeful 'bad guy'.

I remember being really excited when Voyager was launched. But it was bogged down quite quickly and while it had wonderul episodes - it was just dull. The Kazon were boring and the ditto most of the crew. The Maquis crew assilmilated far too quickly, also.
The only standouts were Janeway and B'Elanna.

As stated, I loathed Harry - Tuvok lacked spark, Tom was mediocre at best and the Doctor took forever to develop (although once he did - he was wonderful). I hated Neelix, too. So - as you can see - it took a lot for me to turnaround on Voyager.

As you say though - there were some amazing episodes - especially once Seven arrived (bar Borg eps). I loved the early Seven episodes - like 'The Raven' and later ones like 'Omega'.

I was also bitterly disappointed with the way Voyager went out. The time travel thing was the worst kind of cop-out. I mean - seriously! As you say - cliche and done to death.

I'm sorry - you like Geordi!? He was the weakest character in TNG. I'm a little stunned. Why do you like him? I'm interested. I like Levar, don't get me wrong - but if Geordi had died or something....I doubt I would've cared too much. (No offense).

I also can't believe you didn't like Odo. You're honestly the first person I've met who didn't.

I'm really interested to know why you didn't like Janeway! Long post = good thing Rant away.

Star Wars

Sure Luke was a 'quick learner' (I didn't mean to offend. I know most SW fans think ESB is 'the best' - but I'm not one of them. My brother adores it though!)

ROTJ - I think it would've been a 'wothy end' minus the Ewoks. It's a great movie -but I always think the Ewok stuff lets it down. Having said that, though - the Luke/Vader/Emperor 'fight' was amazing. I love it to death.

I don't think pre-Empire or post-Empire makes much of a difference 'dirt-wise' to be honest. I mean - it's just the places, really. Tatooine was grubby and the Empire were barely there. In Empire - Dagobah is an honest nightmare! But - the prequels - even though we go to Taooine and that other planet where we met Dooku - both were sandy but everything just seemed - clean and unreal and why? B/c most of it was done in a computer.

That restaurant were Kenobi hooks up with Dex -It was meant to be a little grubby -


-from starwars.com - " Located on the streets of Coco Town, a dilapidated industrial area on the city-planet of Coruscant, is a quaint and outdated eatery known simply as Dex's Diner."

I simply didn't gett the sense of it being a dirty little diner - despite knowng it's meant to be. Same with the 'refugee' ship that takes Padme and Anakin back to Naboo. Clean! It's a refugee ship!

Sorry to rave on - it just annoys me no end. When SW came out - people loved it for it's 'realist look' - as did I. It just seems a shame to me that one of the reasons everyone loved it has gone by the wayside.
re: The Clone Wars - What Clone Wars? LOL! I saw the Clone Army 'rescue' the Jedi. I didn't see a 'war'. It was skimmed over and I expect the 'war' to be treated a little more in Revenge. If it's not - I'm sure a billion SW fans will hit the roof.

I was really annoyed with the whole Clone Army thing, actually. The Clone Wars always sounded so intriguing. But it was so wicked diluted in AOTC - I didn't care at all.

For me, the most interesting aspect of 'the prequels' is Palpatine. But then - we all know what he's doing lol. I want more exploration of him and the Sith (which I hope to get in Revenge). Seriously - unless you go to starwars.com and look it up - who knows how the Sith started and why? I remember vague refrences - but nothing that sunk in. Nothing was incrediably 'cool' or 'wonderfully explained'. I honestly believe that to be a flaw in the storytelling.

If by 'Clone Wars' you're refering to a book or something - I don't read SW books - sorry in advance.

I really don't mean to s*** all over SW. If I didn't love it I wouldn't be so hard on it - if you know what I mean. There are aspects for me (in case you haven't guessed) that leave a lot to be desired. It's why ANH is my favorite. It's tight and only has a couple of things that bug - but not enough to bog the story down.

take care

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Ok as I've stated before I've watched TNG a really long time ago so i'm a bit on thin ice with it. (If you are wondering why i didn't tape it , it's because i didn't have a vcr at that time - well acctually I did but it had a nasty habbit of chewing the tapes, and frankly it would have been more usefull as a garbage processor or in the garbage.) So I honestly don't know anymore why i liked Geordi so much. I guess because he was a complete opposite of Riker. He struck me as nice guy who always gets the job done and is almost never given any credit for it. I don't know somehow he fit perfectly into my vision of what starfleet engineer is supposed to be.

Ok, who's next.... Oh, Odo... Well I acctually never liked him (he was too grouchy for me), but what made me totally turn on him was his behaviour when that female changeling came to DS9 and he forgot about everything and was spending days in the link with her (i think there's something grammaticly very wrong with the previous sentance but you'll just have to live with it.. sorry.) And I still refuse to believe he made up with Kira that easily.

And now...my promised rant about why i don't like Janeway (Mama Kate).

#1. She threw Prime Directive out the window when she decided to destroy the Caretakers array (starfleet is not supposed to interfere dammit!), and later after the crews merge she stated that they are to follow all starfleet regulations while travelling back to alpha quadrant...
#2...yet those allmighty regulations tend to go out the window everytime Janeway sees fit.
#3. She changes her mind too easily. E.g. B'Ellana punched irritant lt.Carey(yay B'Ellana!) and Janeway is angry and considering to throw Torres in brig.. yet they are instantly best friends when B'Ellana comes with a brilliant explantion of the anomaly they got stuck in.
#4. Her crush on Chakotay is ridiculous. And all those "i can't/won't do this or that without you Chakotay" were pathetic.
#5. The way she plays mother to Seven,Harry and occasionally Tom.
#6. Her tendency to pick up inergalactic hitchhikers (i mean she brought Neelix along - reason enough?) (as you did i hated him with a passion of a pissed of Klingon)
#7. She gave Harry a pat on the shoulder for what he did in Nightingale! (Yet Tom was demoted for less)
#8. Mulgrew - unfortounatelly i think her acting greatly contributed to all above.
#9. i always had the feeling that she's acting strong because she had to - not because she is. Seriously had the Maquis rebelled I don't think she could have handelled the situation.
#10. Just how many times did she loose Voyager?
I could acctually go on and on without ever stopping...I think the writers should have never killed Jadzia Dax, they should have gave her the command of Voyager instead - if I could have changed just one thing about Voyager (though i think a lot of it should have been differnt) that's the change i would make. And i'm positive we would have had a lot better show.

SW.

Ewoks - I got into a fight over a toy ewoks in the kindergarten (everybody wanted to play with it - but i was the one who prevailed :LOL:) when i was 5 so i don't think i'm objective about them.

[Ali]

Riker vs LaForge: I don't rememeber Riker getting credit for anything.. They're all just doing their jobs. If anyone got major credit for anything however- it was usually Data. But seeing as you don't remember it very well, I won't pursue it.

I loved Odo's grouchiness and sarcasm lol! I guess we're just different. I'm actually watching DS9 back at the moment - and haven't come across the link ep where Odo's 'with' the female changeling. He's been in the link and become human, however. Its been 5 years since I saw DS9 and I only vaguely remember an incident with the female changeling - but I can't remember the specifics. I'll get back to you on this once I've re-watched the incident you're refering to.

Janeway - I guess we'll have to agree to disagree

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Hey i'm just dropping by to apologize for the delay. I have an exam tomorow so i 'm up to my neck in books. I promise to post a very extensive reply to your post tomorow. Wish me luck!
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And the road
The old man paved
The broken seams along the way
The rusted signs, left just for me
He was guiding me, love, his own way
Now the man of the hour is taking his final bow
As the curtain comes down
I feel that this is just goodbye for now.

[Ashes]

[Ali]