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The Water Cooler

- The One with Charming Twins
by Aeryn & Tiffany -7.09.04

  Tiffany: Hello and welcome to even more water cooler with me! And oh my God I am like so excited about the topic today! It so going to be my best one yet!

Aeryn: I assume by meaning "best one yet" that mean you will actually have a topic this time. At this time, I would like to thank those who actually are bored enough to read our little section. Your boredom equals meaning to us. So, in other words, welcome back. Tiff, my anticipation level is slightly above curious. What is the topic this week?

Tiffany: Well if you really must know we are so talking about headlines today. First we must say something about this whole Tori Spelling wedding cause I mean who would have guessed Tori would be getting married? I never would have seen that coming from like a mile away and I am so much more in tune than people who say otherwise and they so said it wasn't a surprise. Pfft! Whatever. I was surprised cause like who even keeps up with her anyways? She is like old news so why does she take up so much room on the news this week? If you ask me people who write for the news are way lame.

Aeryn: I was disappointed that Tori left off vital members of the 90210 cast from the guest list. If she had invited them, then we could have had a 90210 reunion movie with Donna having divorced and get remarried to someone else. Would that had been too much to ask Tori? Oh and Luke even offered to serenade you at your wedding, and you don’t put him down? And leaving off Shannon Doughtery? How could she do that? They were friends back in the day, but I am sure her daddy didn’t like her hanging out with Shannon. This headline was not only a disappointment, but a downer since she nixed so many from her guest list.

Tiffany: Ok your whole point is so lost on me. 90210 is over. OC is in. Go watch it and like get up to date already. But Shannen? Why invite Shannen to anything? She probably was as good a castmate then as she was in Charmed. And she so quits Charmed! What is up with her? She must think she is so better than she really is. I mean seriously cause I read a review of Tori Spellings wedding and they called Shannen a bad seed. I so believe it now especially after watching Charmed. And you know what else? Her character wasn’t even that fun to watch. I say good that she left cause I hear she was a real bitch on sets. I bet thats why Tori didn't want her to come cause she was probably like that back in her 90120 glory days. Thats what my sources tell me and they are usually right about everything.

Aeryn: Tiffany for the last time, the guy outside the studio naked under the trenchcoat is not a reliable source! Shannen made that show! It was never the same after it. According to E!, Shannen's resignation from Charmed is Hollywood's best kept secret #84. Supposedly, Alyssa went to Mr. Spelling and pitched a hissy fit saying that either Shannen went or she would. The rest is history, what we don't know is if she left willingly because of her contract was for a longer. They let her out of it. It sounds like Shannen was given the option to leave since Alyssa was such a diva! It is a good thing Shannen did leave, because it went downhill..... just wish she took Holly Marie Combs with her.

Tiffany: Oh God I so know you are not saying Alyssa Milano caused Shannen to leave Charmed! What is wrong with you anyways? Are you just completely stupid cause I mean you are always like defending the stupidest things. Oh wait I forget! You are a shipper! What a surprise! Irrational and paranoid? I so never would have guessed! I wrote an entire article all about you. Hate to break it to you but Shannen is despised by just about everyone in Hollywood. And why? Cause she is such a bitch. Even if Alyssa did say what you said she said and I am so not saying she said what you said she said cause you so need better sources but even so if she had said what you said she said then who would blame her for saying that? Going to work with Shannen everyday? I can just feel her pain. By the way if you ask me I would so say Alyssa deserves a medal for putting up with Shannen for three years. I’ve heard plenty of stories about her. She is nothing but trouble and speaking of divas who think they are way better than they are there is one right there you can talk about. Anyways I suggest we move on to something more important cause you so don’t know what your talking about. Not that that is a surprise or something new. Oh my God did you hear about Mary-Kate Olsen seeking treatment for anorexia? Now that is news and oh so depressing. But I say good for her for seeking help. I find that to be very encouraging.

Aeryn: Hey, it must be a good thing. If you hate Shannen, then I must be doing something right in loving her. I was a Prue/Andy shipper all the way! Plus, not to mention Dylan/Brenda..... So can't believe he and Kelly slept together behind her back. Thank you for writing about me. I am proud to be a shipper and on behalf of ALL the shippers I know... Let me be the first to say... "Don't mess with my Ship." I know a few Bangelers and Spuffettes that would love to go a few rounds with you on your view of shippers, hell some of the Wedders as well. Anyways, on to Mary-Kate: Much love goes out to you during this time. The Olsen Twins website, http://www.mary-kateandashley.com/ has a thank you for supporting Mary-Kate up. It does not identify the eating disorder, but I believe it was anorexia like you stated. The thing that threw me off guard is that one of the magazines has a recent picture of her and her sister with their family. Both girls are slender, with Mary-Kate being the slimmest, however, I didn't note that much difference in looking at the pictures of the two. It does have to be tough to be these girls. They grew up on camera. I still can't get over that they are old enough to date. I can only hope Mary-Kate can get a handle on her disorder, which I am sure she will.

Tiffany: Anyways Mary Kate has so been in the spotlight this week but lets turn to Ashley a moment cause I did some research and like found out that a lot of doctors think eating disorders could so be genetic just like alcoholism. That means that not only could Ashley have the exact same problem as Mary Kate but there is close to eighty percent chance it would develop in her since she is an identical twin. It turns out among identical twins its very common that happens but as you said there is no evidence Ashley is like that. But who can trust evidence? Was there any evidence J-Lo was getting married? I so rest my case.

Aeryn: Eating disorders are not only genetic, but psychological. One of the criteria for making a diagnosis of an eating disorder is that the person is 85% under the expected weight for their height and age or their total body mass index is equal to/or below 17.5 kg. These are suggested standards to guide clinicians in making the diagnosis, they also take into consideration the person’s body build and weight history. Also, it should be noted that it is not an eating disorder if you are just not hungry. There are three categories of eating disorders: anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa and eating disorder not otherwise specified. Eating disorder NOS is often used when the person does not meet all criterion for the first two. It could be why their website has only said eating disorder and not broke it down into anorexia or bulimia as yet. I agree with you that Ashley has danger of having this problem as well, however, if her twin is going through this, then she also is aware of what it does to a loved one. This can help her to identify if she is going through the same thing, or starts to go through it and seek treatment faster. However, I am not saying that Ashley is going through it now, nor, do I believe she is. As we are looking at the twins, how do you feel about the pressures that the media have put on the twins growing up have influenced this to happen?

Tiffany: Umm.. ok. So would you please ease off with the really lame science data? If you want to bore our readers all you have to do is tell them to read a dictionary. You don't have to read from Einsteins theory on stupidity. I mean what on Earth were you even saying? Oh please why bother? And by the way you throw around big words like pennies so nobody knows what your saying and I bet you so don’t even have a clue. I am so on to your game. Anyways I will answer your question cause its the only thing you said that even makes sense. The media is a pressure machine. Just look at Princess Diana. But child stars are always under heavy influence of the immoral, unethical and the depressing. And I so believe the Olsen twins have finally come to that peek too even though they have so survived the child star thing. But even with that they still grew up with the same environment as all child stars. There is a reason why eating disorders are so common among models and actresses and those in the spotlight and I feel its too obvious to even mention. And speaking of the media look at the tabloids. They were reporting bizarre drug addictions and it really made the twins mad. Oh yea and there Milk campaign ads have been pulled out of “sensitivity” for the twins. Oh please! They pulled the ads cause they didn’t want to be associated with an eating disorder. Its so obvious. Way to go Milk! We support you til you seek help. I love how they stand by people in there darkest times. I am so never looking at a cow the same way again.

Aeryn: Tiffany, I believe that if I am going to talk about an important issue like eating disorders, then I am going to inform people what it is so that they can have a clear understanding of what it is and how it works. But yes, I was angry about the milk ads. Why do that? By doing it, it causes more stigmazation on an issue that is treatable. Mary-Kate was very brave to seek treatment and she gets backlash for it. Eating Disorders are a mental disorder, by pulling her milk ads, they are saying that it is OK to discriminate against people living with mental disorders. My respect for these young ladies have went up. The way they are dealing with this is remarkable. They want people to know that they are individuals, not just the Olsen twins, each with a different personality and look. Plus, their achievements are extraordinary. My two young nieces look up to these girls, they love Mary-Kate and Ashley. I will still encourage them to do that, especially in light of recent events. It shows that their role models are human and make mistakes as well.

Tiffany: And that so brings us to todays political moment. Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has finally chosen a running mate this week. I say its about time. How long was he going to wait anyways? I mean by now who even cares about his campaign? Shouldn’t he have chosen one back when people still knew who he was? Anyways all I can say is whatever. I already forgot who he chose so I’m ready to move on. Any comment before we move to our next headline?

Aeryn: Yes, I am pleased with Kerry's decision to pick John Edwards. It was the smartest thing that he could have done. Most Democrats are pleased with his choice. I would be more likely to vote for him now that he has Edwards on board. I agree with you that he waited a bit too long to announce his decision, trying to make it a cliffhanger... he sent the announcement to subscribers to his website first, before releasing to public. He did say one true thing: His ticket has the best hair. Oh and by the way President Bush, as to your "Cheney can be president" comment, I reply with "So can Edwards."

Tiffany: Oh please! Kerry just picked him cause he knows he isn’t popular enough to get support on his own. He so needs him to have any chance at all. But he so should have picked John McCain cause he would have been such a better choice. And plus they were supposedly friends. What a great friend John Kerry is cause he like doesn’t even choose his friend to be his running mate? And not only that cause he also said all those nasty things about Edwards during the campaign and so how could they be friends now unless Kerry is a liar? Whatever! John McCain is a war hero. Is John Edwards? I don’t think so. I so rest my case. Anyways its time for our next headline. Did you hear about Britney Spears saying no to a prenup with Kevin Federline? Oh my God how brave is she? This so goes to show you that her love is real. I find these types of stories so rewarding after seeing so many depressing stories. But her mother is being such a bitch. Why not let her daughter experience love? It so sounds to me like her parents need to remember that love is so much more important than money. What losers. I am surprised Britney knows how to love at all being raised by gold diggers.

Aeryn: Isn't John McCain a republican? Wasn't John McCain supporting Bush the other day? I'm confused. As far as saying nasty things, they all do that. I agree with you on the no chance and picking Edwards to stand a chance though. Pre-nup? She is getting married again? Wait, is this the dancer guy that has a pregnant girlfriend back home? I hope he takes her for all she is worth.

Tiffany: Well I would totally support Bush too if my bestfriend didn’t pick me for running mate. And as far as Kerry goes here is an impression of him. ‘Lets go to war! Support Bush!’ ‘No wait! Don’t support Bush! Don’t go to war!’ ‘Oh wait! I hate John Edwards! He would be a horrible president!’ ‘Oh wait! I love John Edwards! He would make an excellent president!’ Pfft! What a two faced liar. I so don’t think anyone is as bad as he is in that category. Anyone who votes for that needs serious help. And by the way you are like such an unromantic. Take her for all she is worth? First you go after J-Lo just cause she is an independent minded woman who is comfortable enough to pursue love and now you attack Britney just cause she doesn’t believe in spoiling her marriage with financial agreements? Pfft! Maybe its YOU who needs help Aeryn. You can be such a pessimist all the time.

Aeryn: Are you even old enough to vote? Please before you do run off to the polls make sure that you know what each candidate stands for and don't just vote for them because of their fashion sense. Anyways, before we get bombarded with political hate mail, let's focus on Miss Brittany. I don't like this relationship because of her first hasty marriage that led to annulment. Then she takes another woman's boyfriend while the woman is pregnant. If that is what kind of person she is, then fine, let her ass hang out to dry when this guy walks away or she has had her fill of him. She is just bouncing around life. She needs to find out who she is and be able to take care of herself before getting married. Marriage is not all happy flowers and romance. It is work. Hard work on both sides, that is all I am saying.

Tiffany: Oh please! Now your going to talk about ‘finding yourself?’ Wasn’t it just the last article when you said something about having a problem with J-Lo ‘finding herself?’ And sure. Blame Britney for whatever it is you have a problem with in this relationship. And by the way you haven’t even said anything about the guy being anything bad but rather just knock down Britney. I mean if he really did leave his girlfriend when she was pregnant and I am so not saying he did but if he did do what you said then wouldn’t that be on him and not on Britney? But do you say that? No. You attack Britney. And you even encourage him to take her for all she is worth? Umm.. ok. So like you want this guy to be rewarded for ditching his pregnant girlfriend who may or may not even exist? I mean hello! Where are you even? What logic are you using cause you are way twisted. And sure marriage might be work. But you know what? If there isn’t any love then it doesn’t happen. So are you saying marriage is all work and no love? Pfft! Cause whatever. I think its time for our last headlines cause we have very little time left and you are so making a fool out of yourself. So I will just mention them briefly and we can move on. Sex and the City’s Mario Cantone will be appearing in a one man show on Broadway, Scotty from Star Trek was diagnosed with alzheimers, but to top them all Bob Guiney from The Bachelor has asked Rebecca Budig to marry him. How sweet! Even more love is blossoming in the air. Oh wait. Let me guess. Your going to trash them for getting married right? By the way is that really all you ever do?

Aeryn: I think the guy is a slime. They deserve each other, there are you happy now? No, I didn't say marriage was all work and no love, I said it is both, work and love. Ok just a few words...... Love Rebecca Budig. She was on the soap I watched, Guiding Light, for a while. She is a real sweetie. I hope things work for them, but I am leary about Bob. He had Meredith and they didn't pan out... Can things be different this time? Time will tell. Scotty, my thoughts and prayers are with him. It is a terrible disease that robs a person and their loved ones of so many good things. Speaking of which, if you are ever in search of a good charity to donate to, please consider the Alzheimer's Association. They are a wonderful group and do good things. This disease needs to be stopped. It will effect us all at some, or many times in our lives. And by the way Tiffany, just because I have a realistic opinion does not mean that I am trashing people.

Tiffany: Realistic? You call your opinions realistic? Oh yea so like catering to popular opinion is realistic cause thats all I ever see in your articles. If you wanted realism just take a look at yourself in the mirror and picture your exact opposite. But I will agree with you on the alzheimers association. When Michael J Fox was diagnosed I so wanted to help donate and I so encourage everyone to do so. And so everyone out there should so consider it. Anyways we are thankfully out of time this week so let me just say once again that the Olsen Twins are in our prayers this week and we so hope they can get through this extremely difficult time in there lives. Buh bye everyone!

Aeryn: I can't help it that my opinion is sometimes shared with very smart people around the world. I happen to make sense, at times. Parkinson's Disease! Michael J. Fox was diagnosed with Parkinson's, which is also a good cause. Darn, was hoping for more time. Until next week, I'm Aeryn saying Marriage is very very bad. Just say no.

The views of Tiffany and Aeryn do not necessarily reflect those of HMC.