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Posted by AngelX on Buffy Cross & Stake on 3-19-02
http://www.angelicslayer.com/tbcs/spoilers.html
UPDATED! Spike shows up in Africa where he puts his life on the line to
be returned to the demon he was before the chip. He meets with a demon
and confidently agrees to take on whatever challenges the demon offers
as long as he gets what he asked for in the case that he wins. (I reworded
this as a safety measure after re-reading some of my material. Since the
material I have doesn't make it *perfectly* clear that Spike specifically
wants the chip out or that he'll get it out if he wins, I just want to
make sure I'm not misleading anyone on the basis of some non-specific
lines and unclear "all powerful" demon speak. It's possible
that Spike will be returned to his former demon without the chip being
removed... I can't say for sure. I doubt it, but better safe than sorry.)
Posted by AngelX on http://www.angelicsunset.com/spboard.html
Spoilers: 3/20/02
Posted at BC&S:
Re: Does Buffy leave Dawn with Clem?
Yes.
Re: Whether the whole gang rushes to the Magic Box after viewing the video...
Not the whole gang. Just Xander and Buffy.
Spoilers: 3/19/02
Posted at BC&S:
Re: Spike and whether someone tells him to go to Africa...
As far as I know, he's not told to go by anyone... but his departure happens
in 19, and I don't have full information on that episode. He may have
know about this demon for a long while and just needed the motivation
to finally go to it...I don't know. I don't think it's elaborated on much.
Re: Whether Spike and Anya know they're being watched in 18...
They don't do it knowing they are being watched, but they find out afterwards.
Re: Buffy's reaction to the video of Anya and Spike...
Both Buffy and Xander are upset by what they see because of their former
sig. others. Buffy's upset enough that Willow and Dawn figure out that
Buffy's had something going on with Spike just by looking at her reaction
to what she sees on the screen.
Spoilers: 3/17/02
Posted at BC&S:
Re: Elaboration on Tara spoilers and Warren's actions...
Keyword in the spoilers: "accidental." He doesn't kill her purposely
and actually doesn't even find out about Tara until very late in ep 20.
Spoilers: 3/16/02
Posted at BC&S:
Re: What happens in 19 that makes Buffy not want Spike...
It's not a big deal. I'm not hinting at some big drama here... Buffy's
just physically injured prior to the encounter and it affects her attitude.
No drama. She's hurt badly enough that what he does hurts her as well,
but he doesn't give her the initial injury.
Spoilers: 3/15/02
Posted at BC&S:
Do Spike and Anya actually go all the way?
Yes, but it's not a life-changing experience for either one of them. Just
one of those desperate moments that really accomplishes nothing but getting
both in trouble with their ex's.
Re: Buffy sending Dawn to Spike *after* the events of 19...
Buffy doesn't decide to send Dawn to Spike. It's entirely Dawn's choice
and Buffy's really not in a position to argue. Buffy *knows* that despite
what Spike did and could do to *her*, he could and would never do that
to Dawn. The relationship he has with Dawn has never been anything but
protective and he would die for her as he's proven many times. Buffy,
on the other hand, has always been able to take his forcefulness and occasional
violence, so whatever forcefulness he uses in 19 is somewhat based on
previous experiences where Buffy doesn't mind that behavior so much. It's
not an attempt to hurt her, it's him acting like he used to with her,
but this time, she's not falling for him.
This of course, is addressed in 20 when Dawn announces that she wants
to go to Spike... it shouldn't be ignored. :)
Re: Spike going to Africa to get the chip out...
Spike wants to get the chip out to give Buffy a changed man. But I don't
know whether that's is to get the chip out and prove that he can be good
without it, or get the chip out and be bad. He's not happy with who he's
become with the chip, of course, but who knows where things could lead.
He may not even be able to get the chip out for all I know.
Re: Buffy seeing the tape of Anya/Spike after or during the event of A/S...
The gang see it as it's happening, which leads to more drama later in
the episode. And Spike having sex with Anya isn't exactly the only reason
for Buffy not wanting him. Aside from the whole "not being involved
with him anymore," there's more that's unveiled later in 18 and some
in 19 that ads to her reasons for not being interested. The fact that
she's very adamant about them not being together anymore and not loving
him should be enough, but there are other possible reasons as well.
Further clarification about what leads Buffy to not want Spike...
Take one drunk Spike, add the opportunity to tell Buffy's friends about
him sleeping with her and what do you get? Two friends finding out the
truth. Really not something that hasn't been hinted at for a while. And
the other thing from 19 isn't even related to Spike so nothing to freak
over.
Even without those things, Buffy shouldn't need other reasons to not want
Spike at the moment. She's not backing down from her position of not wanting
to be with him. She doesn't love him and it's not fair to her to be in
a relationship with him if she doesn't love him. I'm not sure how bad
the scene will play out when it's finally cut and edited and such, but
if nothing else, it should show the consequence of Buffy's repeated use
of "No" and "Please Don't" before just surrendering
to Spike as she did repeatedly in the past. For once, when she really
means it, he doesn't take her seriously.
Posted at Fan Forum: Spoilers...one time thing...
In 18... Buffy and Spike's "chat" is pretty cute. He holds a
vamp by his throat while she fights another they exchange a few lines.
The basic "How are ya" stuff, but still kinda cute exchange.
In 20...although Spike is gone, Buffy does miss him. According to what
I have, she does, at least. Misses his presence at the crypt and asks
Clem when he'll be back. Whether there's more than that kinda depends
on the director and Sarah during filming.
Posted by Wanda on E!Online on 3-18-02
http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Wanda/Trans/Archive2002/020318.html
From halloo: But are the Scoobies ever going to find out about Spike?
I feel so incredibly horrible for poor William!
The cat's outta the bag in the next episode. Buffy tries to bond with
Dawn to ease her mind after last week's massacre attempt, and in the process
she spills the beans on Spike. (She already sorta did in the last ep.)
Meanwhile, Anya gets her vengeance-groove on as she accepts the offer
to become a demon again. You get one guess as to who's going to be her
first target.
From chris345: Amber Benson was on Loveline [KROQ] saying she just filmed
a scene with Tara and Willow in bed naked. Is it a sex scene, or do they
just pan to the girls pre or post make-out?
It's pretty damn steamy from what I hear. Not Spuffy through-the-floor
steamy--but close.
From cooldave89: When will Giles be coming back?
Not any time before episode 20, unfortunately.
From chris345: Please have pity on us Buffy-philes; throw us a crumb or
two.
Big, bad stuff coming up at the beginning of May for sweeps. Including
a--drum roll please--Big Bad, which I'm really looking forward to. We'll
also see how truly e-ville Warren is, as two of the Scoobies' lives are
put in very grave danger.
Posted by BBOvenGuy on the BC&S Spoiler Board on 3-22-02
The Buffy crew was on location tonight in Van Nuys, on Woodley Avenue
between Victory Boulevard and Burbank Boulevard. This is a stretch of
very wide road running over a mile through the Sepulveda Dam Recreation
Area. Lots of wide open spaces.
By about 8:15 this evening, Xita and I were standing on the corner of
Victory and Woodley, looking down the street as various vehicles were
driving around. There were two police officers standing at the corner
opposite from us and we weren't sure they would let us through. Then this
mom and her two daughters crossed the street and walked right past the
police without them even blinking, so we figured it was okay for us to
do the same. :)
Sitting across the entire road was a large 18-wheeler truck. Near it was
a car labelled "SUNNYDALE POLICE DEPARTMENT," set up on this
big tow-truck rig with all sorts of lights and cameras on it. We stood
there for quite a while, waiting to see what would happen. Eventually,
something did.
Vans came down from the base camp, and out popped Sarah Michelle Gellar,
Nicholas Brendon, Danny Strong and Tom Lenk. There was also this black-haired
woman wearing black clothes and black boots with thick heels on them.
Was this Black Magic Willow? We couldn't tell exactly because it was dark
and we weren't quite close enough - although later events made it obvious
that this was in fact Stunt Black Magic Willow.
A large ladder was put next to the cab of the 18-wheeler, and someone
(The Director? The Stunt Coordinator? I couldn't tell) climbed up onto
the roof of the cab. He gets down on all fours and starts saying, "She's
up here! She's run out of power, and she's down like this." Stunt
Black Magic Willow climbs up and does the same thing. Meanwhile, the four
cast members climb into the police car.
So here's the scene. Apparently Black Magic Willow has decided to go after
Jonathan and Andrew, and she has magically hijacked this 18-wheeler to
do them in. Buffy and Xander have somehow comandeered a police car with
Jonathan and Andrew in it, and they're on the run as Black Magic Willow
chases them. Then at some point, Black Magic Willow runs out of power
and the police car gets away.
They drove up and down the street several times, presumably filming close-up
dialogue scenes inside the police car during various points of the chase.
A couple of times the 18-wheeler drove past us with Stunt Black Magic
Willow standing up on the roof of the cab. It was quite a sight, let me
tell you. She even glared down at us once. Also, just as an aside, at
some point they either have to shoot (or maybe they have already shot)
Alyson standing up there on the roof of cab being all evil and vengeful.
Obviously the truck wouldn't be moving with an expensive star standing
on top of it, but they could simulate movement with big fans or something.
Given how cold it was tonight and the fact that Alyson would also have
those black contact lenses in her eyes, I'm guessing that's not going
to be a pleasant experience. Ah, the sacrifices Aly makes in the name
of art. :)
Join me in the Crypt of Decryption:
First, I have to take responsibility for an inaccurate spoiler. All signs
indicate that the spoiler I reported about Buffy selling the house is
wrong. I'm very sorry about that. It seems to have come from a misinterpretation
of a scene from Normal Again, but I am not exactly sure.
Second, I do have some further clarification of a controversial scene
in episode 19 involving Spike. I did hear from someone with access to
a setside source who reports that the scene as filmed does have overtones
of rape and is "very intense."
There is really not a lot to analyze this week otherwise. AngelX provides
additional information; there is no need to question her reliability and,
indeed, the location shoot report confirms what information she has provided
about Willow going back to magic, particularly dark magic, and taking
revenge on those who were responsible for Tara's death. The location shoot
would seem to be for scenes from episode 21, the penultimate episode of
the season.
To return to the issue of the controversial Spike/Buffy scene: I think
fans of Spike should be prepared to see him do something that will horrify
him and motivate him to make a change in his life. What kind of change
that will be is up in the air. AngelX's information indicates that he
will ask to return somehow to what he was. The wording in the script is,
I'm sure, deliberately vague in order to increase the dramatic tension.
Viewers are supposed to wonder if he will be evil again as he was in Season
2.
Scheduled writers and episode titles:
Ep. #18
Drew Greenberg
Title: Entropy
Ep. #19 Steve DeKnight
Title: Seeing Red
Ep. #20
Marti Noxon
Title: Villains
Ep. #21
Doug Petrie
Title: Unknown
Ep. #22
David Fury
Title: Unknown
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