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Goof seen in: Halloween at 29.31
The intruder Angel fights in Buffy’s house is a vampire - who was not invited in. |
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| Suggested by: | › Jess |
| Added: | › 30th September 2004 |
| Updated: | › 19th April, 2005 |
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13 Comments about “[2.06-29.31] Uninvited vamp”
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April 21st, 2005 at 2:58 pm
Isn’t that vampire a person in a Halloween costume who’s been turned into a vampire. Maybe the rules don’t count for magical vampires, or maybe Buffy had invited the person wearing the costume into her house before?
Puja
June 7th, 2005 at 8:00 pm
They do that a lot though. For instance, the rules are constantly changing when it comes to hotel rooms. Most of the time vampires can enter them because “they aren’t permanent residences,” yet in season three of Angel in Heartthrob, Angel needs Fred to invite him into her room at the Agency’s hotel.
June 7th, 2005 at 11:13 pm
About msf’s comment on Angel’s hotel, I don’t really think the same rules should apply there, considering the hotel is not truly one anymore. It’s more of a home to all of them.
June 8th, 2005 at 12:33 pm
The invitation rule does seem a bit fuzzy when it comes to hotel rooms. There’s also the episode Innocence when Angel kills Jenny’s uncle in a hotel room - he didn’t need an invitation then.
June 10th, 2005 at 8:45 pm
To Jess - Yeah, I commented about that in the trivia, and someone wrote that since it was a hotel room, he didn’t need an invite. But I could have sworn I saw episodes of Buffy and Angel where Vamps needed invites into even hotel rooms. Anyone remember if Angel needed an invite into that woman’s hotel room in that episode “Are You Now, or Have You Ever Been…”??
June 15th, 2005 at 7:25 am
In Angel Season 4, it is specifically stated that vampires need no invitation to enter temporary accomodation (when Angel is talking to Holtz).
However, in Season 2, a shopkeeper talks about ‘bringing in his bedroll so that you critters can’t just walk in here’ so any place can obviously be made into a home and thus safe. I guess it depends on whether you consider the place to be a permanent accomodation - Uncle Enyos was just passing through and (presumably) had a home elsewhere, so Angel could walk in, whilst Fred makes he room her home and thus Angel needs an invitation.
Puja
July 14th, 2005 at 10:36 pm
I was watching this episode last night and judging by what the “vampire” was wearing, its a kinda white frilly shirt and yellow shiny waistcoat - I would say that it’s a person dressed up as a vampire that has been turned into his costume.
Just think how it would have turned out if Angel had staked him!
August 3rd, 2005 at 5:36 am
I don’t think it does apply for hotel rooms, Because in the epi. in the third season Faith,Hope & Trick. Kikestos or as Buffy calls him “kissing toast” he doesn’t need an invite to get into Faiths hotel room nor does Mr. Trick. but then again joss makes some changes through the seasons.
November 5th, 2005 at 11:03 pm
The term used to describe those places in which a vampire does NOT need an invite is “publiv accomodation” — i.e., a store, restaurant, hotel lobby, or, presumably, a hotel room, since, the general public has access to it, and no one staying, even if overnight, could claim it to be his or her home or place of residence. It seems the determining factor would be the state of mind of the person who would need to do the inviting. If that person considered or lived in the place in a manner consistent with calling it his own, then an invite would be required. However, as was the case with Jenny’s uncle, the person understands the place to be a place in which he was only staying for a night or a short period, the vampire could enter ininvited.
Just a theory….
November 6th, 2005 at 7:37 am
When analyzing the invitation/hotel rule, you might consider the dorm rooms in season 4. They act much like a hotel, but the occupants “live” there. Angel had to have an invite in “The Yoko Factor” to apologize to Buffy for his bad behavior (LOVE the smirk on his face when Buffy chooses him over Riley!). So my assumption is that someplace that is your main place of residence requires an invitation for a vampire to enter, while a temporary location that is NOT your main current residence does not. Guess the only way to be sure would be to hear it from the writers themselves.
November 6th, 2005 at 12:23 pm
The phrase, “public accomidation” was used on Angel to describe a motel (why an invite isn’t neccessary). A dorm room could not be called a public accomidation, since not just anyone can stay there (not counting guests, I mean), so it would make sense that it would require an invite, even if a motel would not.
November 6th, 2005 at 3:17 pm
I concur. Considering one lives in a dorm room for 9 months (a school year), he or she clearly thinks of it as “home”, and therefore an invite would be required. However, no one, except perhaps someone living in a transient hotel, would consider a hotel or motel room as his “home”, hence, no invite needed.
November 6th, 2005 at 6:11 pm
The dorm room acting as a residence for 9 months of the year is exactly the reason I used it as an example because I making a reference to the “hotel” in Angel, as referred to by MSF above, comment on Jult 7th.(”Most of the time vampires can enter them because “they aren’t permanent residences,” yet in season three of Angel in Heartthrob, Angel needs Fred to invite him into her room at the Agency’s hotel.”) The point I’m trying to make is not whether a place is specifically a “hotel” per se, but rather, like in Fred’s case in Angel, it was her current primary residence, just like a dorm is. Therefore, it is possible that hotel rooms, if acting as the primary residence, would require an invited for a vampire to enter.