How did Spike get all the way to Uganda in Africa in the timespan between Seeing Red and Villains? We know from Surprise that he can’t travel by plane. Angel says it’s too difficult as vampires have no way of controlling direct sunlight on a plane. If he went by ship it would take him weeks to get to Africa from California - and I’m sure there aren’t too many ships making that journey. |
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Suggested by: | › Jess |
Added: | › 7th June 2005 |
Updated: | › 6th March, 2006 |
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June 7th, 2005 at 12:26 pm
Then again, this is Spike we’re talking about, who has never been as logical as Angel. It is highly possible that he caught a night plane over there, feeling that it was a risk worth taking
June 7th, 2005 at 1:09 pm
Good point. I like that. Being spike he may even hide away in the cargo hold like Kendra does in Season 2.
June 8th, 2005 at 9:00 am
I watched the Angel episode ‘A Hole in the World’ again last night and in that, Spike tells Angel he’s never flown before. The plot thickens!
June 8th, 2005 at 7:21 pm
could have nicked a ship? aha! i win. (probably not)
August 21st, 2005 at 2:38 am
Angel and Spike actually do travel by plane in the AtS episode ‘A Hole in the World’. So vampires can take planes, but they probably have to be fitted with special glass, like I’m sure Angel’s W&H jet was.
August 21st, 2005 at 8:19 am
That was definitely a Wolfram and Hart plane, with special glass.
August 21st, 2005 at 8:48 am
Considering Spike doesn’t return to Sunnydale until the falling Fall (thus giving him ample time to travel by virtually any mode to and back from Africa), I think it is safe to assume that the writer’s, while showing us his battles to regain his soul contemporaneously to the showdown between Buffy and “the Trio”, did not necessarily mean to suggest that it was taking place at the exact same time. As a motorcyclist, what I find even more distressing is: What did he do with his bike!!?!?
August 21st, 2005 at 8:58 am
Ah, good point, slightlyembarrased. I was probably taking that episode too literally in my desparation to find goofs in season six!
August 21st, 2005 at 9:44 am
yeah the airplain in hole in the world and shells and the girl in question do have neccro tempered glass. good point though, about it might not have been during the same time as the willow smack down
August 28th, 2005 at 6:55 pm
In season 5 when Xander and Spike goes and see’s the demon Doc about a way to stop glory he mentions using a teleportation spell when Doc mentions a a man in China to see, it is possibe that was used to get him to africa fast.
June 16th, 2006 at 10:40 am
Ok, I know this is going to sound REALLY stupid but when I first saw this episode I had no idea Spike went to Africa to get the soul. Seriously, I thought he just travelled cross-country to some desert somewhere. Nothing gave it away - not the tribal language or anything. I only found out when afterwards I read stuff and of course there were mentions of his journey to Africa and I was like “…the hell?!” Am I the ONLY person in the world dumb enough to miss that? I really think so.
June 16th, 2006 at 2:56 pm
I didn’t realize it either, if it helps at all.
Also, I read the comment from slighlyembarrassed (who, if you weren’t around the BTG then, used to make more posts on the BTG than anybody before leaving the site forever) that said that it may not have taken place at the same time. That is what I have long assumed was the case as well. There’s no reason for it be have to be going on at the same time; they need to show it happen, and this way works as good as any, it seems.
July 15th, 2006 at 9:56 am
Maybe he had Anya teleport him there.